tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985367622722283918.post2411294367554324749..comments2024-03-22T13:11:47.119+05:30Comments on The TimePass of India: Taking it to heart...Arshat Chaudharyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05410175680648355947noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985367622722283918.post-75493337589006663292008-10-07T12:18:00.000+05:302008-10-07T12:18:00.000+05:30@arpitaThanks for the comment..The system is reall...<I><BR/>@arpita<BR/>Thanks for the comment..<BR/>The system is really weird, and I have been thinking for the the last few days bout it - if there is nothing done bout the disparity in the marking scheme of the two boards, it will only get worse for the ssc students.. <BR/>The no. of Icse schools that are coming up is crazy! With so many Icse students wanting to get admission in the best of JCs, the ssc students will be pushed away to make way for them!<BR/></I>Arshat Chaudharyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05410175680648355947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985367622722283918.post-48962671687187349822008-10-06T19:49:00.000+05:302008-10-06T19:49:00.000+05:30"taking it to heart" is quite a blog!!!...and it b..."taking it to heart" is quite a blog!!!...and it brings to light the enormity of the marks system in our state...being an ssc student myself,i to empathize with al dose whu hve bn struggling 2 get in2 decent junior colleges 4 all dese years...althgh it had been relatively easy 4 me...but i do remember the condition of few of my close friends because of the unfairness of the admission criteria!!!...i also believe that the icse students put in a lot of effort to get the scores...but we can't deny that at the end itz the ssc guys n gals whu have to bear the brunt of the viciousness of the marks system!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985367622722283918.post-25792079371582709382008-10-06T00:34:00.000+05:302008-10-06T00:34:00.000+05:30@harishAbout the Quota system revert to my respons...<I><BR/>@harish<BR/><BR/>About the Quota system revert to my response to aroop's comment..<BR/><BR/>I am sure you will agree the quota between Diploma and Engg. doesnt exactly "work". But I dont know if there is an better soln there..<BR/>Other two options that you have suggested make a lotta sense..I completely agree on absorbing ssc students in cbse/icse boards though it seems to be an uphill task..<BR/>The idea of an entrance exam also seems doable..<BR/><BR/>Coming to ssc vs icse..<BR/>I never said ssc guys were less intelligent.. I just said that the few icse guys i knew were intelligent..<BR/><BR/>And I did not suggest that icse students not getting into the best engg collges makes them less intelligent.. <BR/>That comment was made just to make the readers realize that in a different setting different students will perform better.. So the colleges which thought they were taking in the best of students, werent necessarily doing a good job of choosing the best ones..<BR/>As I see it, the main job of a Junior college is to make sure its students make it to the best professional colleges, but that doesnt happen always now, does it?<BR/><BR/>And about the answers being presentable and all in the state board, isnt it like that the world over?<BR/>I believe when you choose to enter a system, you also accept to abide by its rules.. So when in hsc, do as the hscians do!(er..pls bear with me) And who knows how crappy icse is! For all u knw, it might have more questions repeating than hsc..<BR/><BR/>I agree bout the learnability and intelligence being unaffected by the board part..<BR/><BR/><BR/></I>Arshat Chaudharyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05410175680648355947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985367622722283918.post-69729258235710002502008-10-06T00:08:00.000+05:302008-10-06T00:08:00.000+05:30@chrizSame here.. We are as confused as you guys a...<I><BR/>@chriz<BR/><BR/>Same here.. We are as confused as you guys are! Only more! :P<BR/></I>Arshat Chaudharyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05410175680648355947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985367622722283918.post-63270926873448729372008-10-06T00:07:00.000+05:302008-10-06T00:07:00.000+05:30@hirenSeriously yaar.. I feel like laughing when p...<I><BR/>@hiren<BR/>Seriously yaar.. I feel like laughing when ppl like say they scored less coz they were in Icse.. Bet deep inside even they know how stupid that sounds..<BR/></I>Arshat Chaudharyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05410175680648355947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985367622722283918.post-77796722338685150842008-10-06T00:05:00.000+05:302008-10-06T00:05:00.000+05:30@mayuThat bad eh? Someone who cant be just in day ...<I><BR/>@mayu<BR/><BR/>That bad eh? Someone who cant be just in day to day affairs is somehow passing judgments on issues this important..<BR/><BR/><BR/></I>Arshat Chaudharyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05410175680648355947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985367622722283918.post-82102993354721174152008-10-05T23:48:00.000+05:302008-10-05T23:48:00.000+05:30@aroopMost of what you said made sense..But I dont...<I><BR/>@aroop<BR/>Most of what you said made sense..<BR/>But I dont agree with the Quota part.. Quotas in our country never get revised.. <BR/><BR/>Lets say we have the quota in the ratio you suggested, but what happens if more and more Icse guys opt out for IB or ISC colleges.. or worse, wht if ssc guys shift to isc or IB colleges? It is not impossible with he economy booming and all..<BR/><BR/>And I never compared Icse students with ssc students.. I just said the ones I knew were intelligent.. :)<BR/><BR/>"Life isn't fair, it isn't meant to be, the sooner you make peace with that fact, the quicker you'll find eternal happiness" - Aroop Chaudhari.<BR/><BR/>You read it here first people!!<BR/><BR/></I>Arshat Chaudharyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05410175680648355947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985367622722283918.post-57954055554306416842008-10-04T19:58:00.000+05:302008-10-04T19:58:00.000+05:30The way education is imparted to an ICSE guy is ve...The way education is imparted to an ICSE guy is very different from the way it is given to us SSC guys. Also the marking shemes followed in the exams is also quite different from each other. You have n different boards , you have n different systems.<BR/> <BR/>Whats the solution? <BR/>The quota system is one. It will work in the same same way it works between Diploma and Engg. <BR/>Another one might be to have admissions totally on an unified enterance test for colleges and do away with the undue importance attached to the 10/12th std exams.<BR/>Yet another would be to slowly absorb all those from different state boards into the central system either CBSE/ICSE.<BR/><BR/>Coming to SSC v/s ICSE, saying a SSC guy is less intelligent than a ICSE guy is wrong. Similarly the example of no ICSE guy getting into the engg coll also doesnt mean that they are any less intelligent than SSC guys.<BR/>Maybe most of them cant cope with the level of stupidity incorporated in the state board style of examinations. Repeated Question Papers with more emphasis on the presentation of the answer than the actual content and such crap.<BR/><BR/>Ultimately i feel the knowledge levels of students from diff. boards may differ but the intelligance and learnability of an individual is not affected by the various board he/she studies in...Harishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16560697221364996894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985367622722283918.post-68795786779258683862008-10-04T07:35:00.000+05:302008-10-04T07:35:00.000+05:30man i am not sure abt the grading system in north....man i am not sure abt the grading system in north.. but from the place i come from.. it is state board, central board, icse, matric .. and all of us are confused...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985367622722283918.post-62121430021312286492008-10-02T16:52:00.000+05:302008-10-02T16:52:00.000+05:30gud 1 arshat...but i wuld like 2 share 1 of my exp...gud 1 arshat...<BR/>but i wuld like 2 share 1 of my experience..<BR/>1ce durin our ssc admissions (whn i was standin in a long queue of 1 of d colls in mumbai) 1 icse guy came in wid 75%...<BR/>he was disappointed wid his % & was askn every1 whthr thrs any flexibility 4 icse/cbse guys is coll admission.<BR/>i mean he was tellin dat his board is tuffer thn d normal ssc board & hence thr shuld b a different admission system 4 thm.<BR/>& some of d parents of ssc guys wr agreeing 2 him.<BR/>i was lookin @ thm & thinkin, didnt thr sons or daughters tell thm how much did v slog 4 1 full yr 2 get some decent % @ ssc..<BR/><BR/>so bottomline is dat thr shuld b some justice done 2 d ssc students.<BR/>v dont hv toppers @ 98%..<BR/>max our toppers can get is 94%<BR/>& v hv 'n' number of ppl rangin in 85-89 whereas icse hv 'n' no of ppl in 90-95..<BR/>so somethin hsuld b done..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985367622722283918.post-46613735531408838242008-10-02T14:44:00.000+05:302008-10-02T14:44:00.000+05:30Hey,i wish 2 tell u people- Mr. Chief Justice is a...Hey,i wish 2 tell u people- Mr. Chief Justice is also a problem 2 da Judiciary in general!!!!!<BR/>He's a nuisance 2 all the judges working in da judiciary as well! i wud like 2 cite an example- Apparently, he rejected a senior judge's transfer appeal(who was severly handicapped) on da mere grounds dat climbing 3 floors of da court building where he was transferred widout da help of a lift wud be a good exercise for him. <BR/>Well, not only this, i can go on citing examples of his improper decions but dat will lead 2 a creation of yet another blog!<BR/>Arshat, i luv u for writing this one!Mayuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06464716292197723577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5985367622722283918.post-63032116274545058302008-10-02T13:41:00.000+05:302008-10-02T13:41:00.000+05:30How much does the chief justice earn, chances are,...How much does the chief justice earn, chances are, for all you know, his kids might be in an ICSE school..<BR/><BR/>If you have the neutrality to call a spade a spade, then you'll agree, there's no such things as an average icse student is smarter or dumber than his ssc counterpart.<BR/><BR/>The difference, is the family you were born in, whether your father could afford Jamnabai Narsee or Mulund Government school, and i have dined and tippled with kids from the elitest families(Owner of Ecole Mondial) to downright poor(zhopadpatti) in mumbai and intellectually, the board doesn't make an ounce's difference. well informed, may be but more intelligent.. bleh..<BR/><BR/>Although probably the icse schools feel obliged to make the paying fathers happy with marks when schools like Ecole mondial(international School) juhu, charge 9 lakhs per annum and my entire education tuitions and school, college fees, and probably inclusive of my future hypothetical mba degree would cost less.<BR/><BR/>I have pondered the issue time and again and seeing the two side of the coin, the only acceptable conclusion i could come up with was having quotas, now don't start that we have enough quotas already, listen to my solution first.<BR/><BR/>Say you have 500 icse students in mumbai and 50000 ssc, and 1000 hsc seats in Chelsea College, you maintain the ratio of 1:100 in the hsc as well, this always draws ire of the icse students, saying it isn't fair, what if the average icse student is more smarter, thats why i built up my argument clearing the fact at first, if you agreed to it then, you cant raise the point now :P<BR/><BR/>but as i always say, <BR/><BR/>"Life isn't fair, it isn't meant to be, the sooner you make peace with that fact, the quicker you'll find eternal happiness" - Aroop Chaudhari.aroophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14760625881872245415noreply@blogger.com